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Attenzione lavorando nel palazzo di giustizia di milano, ho assistito ad una 10 di cause in cui la Cartier Richemont fa causa a produttori e commercianti di orologi in plastica rettangolari , dicendo che il cliente finale li confonde con il loro prodotto!
Peccato che uno costa 100 euro e l'altro 3.000 Euro .
O forse anche i Cartier sono fatti in Cina ?
Ritengo che dopo quello che ho visto , dato che ci danno dei cretini , cioè se compro un orolgio trasparente uguale piu' o meno nelle forme ad un cartier mi confondo nel comprare un originale Cartier , allora nella mia DEMENZA non comprero' piu' nulla del gruppo Richemont.
Sperando che anche questo non sia fonte di causa da un gruppo abbastanza dubbioso di sostanza.
Alcuni Cugini Svizzeri
Is creazy , I have noticed that Richemont Group , Cartier, make litigation to the Producer of Plastic watches! Because can create confusion from the real Santos to the customers !!!
Is that because , the Cartier Santos Made in Cina too ?
I think that is not true this notice !!
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fidbald (532 ) View Listings | Report Jan-05-08 09:16 PST 1 of 19
what's exactly your problem ? you don't get off your fakes ?
giomistere (14 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 01:34 PST 2 of 19
Is simply ... U buy a Plastic Watch that cost 100 USd and this is can create confusion to the santos Cartier that is in Steel and cost 3500 USd .
U think that is possibile?
fidbald (532 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 02:50 PST 3 of 19
listen, in all honesty, when I look at what crap you sell, e.g. those cheap tissot copies, I wonder that you're still on ebay. I hope they'll give you the boot asap.
giomistere (14 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 09:09 PST 4 of 19
Tissot !? U know the Watches of luxury market or not?
giomistere (14 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 09:10 PST 5 of 19
And last , I not sell I buyng !! please control !
Regards
nikolins73 (36 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 09:17 PST 6 of 19
I can confirm having read this about Cartier group on the news. I think that they should address their concerns towards the real Replica sellers. This lawsuit against the sellers of plastic watches is ridicolous !!!
No customer could ever not beeing able to distiguish a platic watch to a steel Cartier watch. I think they only try this because they are frustraded with the Replica sellers agains which they are powerless...
fidbald (532 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 09:54 PST 7 of 19
"This lawsuit against the sellers of plastic watches is ridicolous !!!"
true. every process becomes ridiculous when it takes place in italy. your system of justice is as much worth as your postal system: naught, nada, niente.
nikolins73 (36 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 10:20 PST 8 of 19
I agree with you. And this is another point in favour of my thesis: this lawsuit is ridiculous.
In China there are perhaps 100 factories of replica watches and no one moves a finger against this illegal business !!! why ???
fidbald (532 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 10:34 PST 9 of 19
because there is no difference between italy and china. the authorities say "yesyes" "sisi" and don't pull their fingers out of where it's warmest.
the swiss watch federation has an office in china, and some factories were closed. but it's the same situation as in napoli: at one end you close one factory, at the other end another one opens.
and as you perfectly well know, italy is still one of the big places for fakes worldwide, acc. to some listings with a percentage of 15 to 30 %.
it's a bit cheap to cry around about china and doing nothing at home.
jadeblackhawk (566 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 10:51 PST 10 of 19
In China there are perhaps 100 factories of replica watches and no one moves a finger against this illegal business !!! why ???
Because no one's crazy enough to PO China, that's why. They do a lot worse things than produce counterfeits, and nothing gets done about that either...
Every day should be nap day!
nikolins73 (36 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 10:54 PST 11 of 19
On this specific point I'm not in agreement. Italy is indeed a big market for fakes, but they come from China. In Italy the cost of the labour is too high to produce this kind of watches, even for the black market.
The factories to be closed are there.
fidbald (532 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 11:10 PST 12 of 19
maybe for watches now, but certainly not for handbags and other accessories. and I don't see any difference whatsoever between a chinese and a european fake seller, sorry.
nikolins73 (36 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 11:28 PST 13 of 19
Besides this controversy about fake watches I am truly sorry that you have such a low opinion of Italians. Remeber that Italy is not only Naples or mafia (of which even us Italians are ashamed of).
It is also a wonderful country made of people that have made Italy famous for: art, wine, food, architecture, automobile industry, fashion, music, cinema and the list could go further on.
So you see that it is not made only of bad people as you want to see it.
You can find bad everywhere, even in your country.
fidbald (532 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 12:55 PST 14 of 19
I did say something about the attitude towards fakes. I didn't say anything general about italy besides the obvious lack to fight fakes. but if you want to become nationalistic, just do it.
in the 20th century you only exported one thing, and that was fascism.
nikolins73 (36 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 14:11 PST 15 of 19
Ah that explains everything!! Let's talk about nationalistic then!!
Nonetheless we going off track. the question is:
can the judge condemn this company because the product can iduce them into mistake when buying the article? I really do not believe so, unless they are dumm enough not to see the difference!!
Besides, just for your information, I am English.
5026monica (8 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 14:17 PST 16 of 19
Dear fidbald ,
U are Swiss !! and this is the reality of your mentality .
Swiss Live for Money of Mafia of all over the world!
In Cine Swiss Produce a lot of Watches and After write Swiss Made !
Al Free Port are in Switzerland , and all Europe Ask to stop this ....S....T!
Please before attach , see on yor side !
With my best regards
jadeblackhawk (566 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 15:00 PST 17 of 19
*sigh* I must be over at the jewelry board by mistake...
...Snap, snarl, growl...
Truth is, there are bad people everywhere because people are people. Doesn't matter what country you are in.
Back on topic... Without a specific name (lotsa people make watches out of plastic, I'm not sure if the OP was refering to a particular company?), I assume these watches are made with the intent to deceive. No other purpose.
Otherwise, they would be clearly marked as to what they are, so there would be no confusion even for a novice.
Every day should be nap day!
fidbald (532 ) View Listings | Report Jan-06-08 21:00 PST 18 of 19
"In Cine Swiss Produce a lot of Watches and After write Swiss Made !" :^O perhaps your shitty cars that rust away before they even left the production hall.
but I leave it at that, because south of the san gottardo there is africa.
nikolins73 (36 ) View Listings | Report Jan-07-08 00:42 PST 19 of 19
If we want to talk seriously about this issue then let's do it. But if we just want to insult other countries then it's best that you keep out of the discussion. Your arguments are not pertinent with the matter. you can keep you Swiss accusations and insults to yourself. There would be so much to talk about the Swiss that you wouldn't know where to begin with.I agree with what others have said that also Swiss companies commision parts of watches or even the whole watch made in China. So what are we arguing about??Let's at least be a little coherent.
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